Logitech G Extreme 3D Pro USB Joystick for Windows - Black/Silver

For starters, it's cheap, functional, and durable enough, but don't expect it to be a HOTAS. I would say that anyone who is interested in using a joystick for a game like war thunder should buy this stick. To understand what I'm trying to say please realize that this is coming from someone who bought this stick for the explicit reason of starting out on a joystick. It has almost been a year since I bought it, and I want to discuss using joysticks versus the mouse before I discuss this one model. Anyone who is buying a joystick for the first time needs to understand the very different world they are entering when they do so. I don't want anyone being deceived; it is much more difficult to use a joystick than a mouse. The joystick does give you more authority over the aircraft than mouse and keyboard, which can be an obvious advantage. However, the mouse and keyboard allows you to focus on simply pointing the aircraft where you want to go and employing the weapons while the computer optimizes the control inputs. With the joystick you are the one that eases the aircraft into and out of the turn; you set the banking of the aircraft. This is not as easy as it seems at first. When you first start, your brain will want to think that all you have to do to bank the aircraft ten degrees is to hold the stick at a ten degree angle. The next thing you know the aircraft is upside down because you forgot to return the stick to neutral. Like I said, it’s a very different experience and it requires a bit of a learning curve. In fact, most people stick to flying with the mouse and keyboard because of the difficulty of transitioning, and the time it can take to start getting kills with the joystick (I still do better with the mouse than the joystick). Now, in regards to this particular product, Logitech has a reputation with me of making virtually indestructible computer peripherals. Okay, so they’re made of flimsy plastics. But they have still survived many drops and some rough handling from yours truly. Additionally I would say that the price is right for something you might buy, use a couple of times, and then never touch again. And the product gives you everything you need in order to have full authority over your aircraft. This way you can at least make an informed decision whether or not you want to use a joystick; then you can upgrade to a more expensive HOTAS system if you so choose. Durability is apparently a hit or miss proposition. I have seen many reviews saying that the neutral position will shift over time. I have not seen this. The only problem that I have seen so far is that the hat switch was unusable on Microsoft Flight. This scared me at first, but when I got the joystick to work on War Thunder (not the easiest thing to do), the hat switch worked fine. The only real gripes I have with the Extreme 3D Pro are that it isn’t a HOTAS nor will it ever be one, and that the stick is a little rough when switching roll or pitch direction. This last complaint is commonly mentioned in the reviews of every joystick I looked at below 100 dollars. This is only a problem when making very intricate maneuvers such as when dog fighting. In fact it only started to become a problem for me when I was trying to fly in War Thunder’s realistic mode, and it became a substantial issue when I tried simulator mode. CONCLUSION: this is not a stick for the simulator enthusiast. This is a starter stick, something you can buy without guilt if you decide you don’t enjoy flying with a joystick. And for those who do enjoy flying with joysticks, it is something that can be used until they can get a more complex system. This is after all nothing but a joystick with throttle axis and a few buttons. Those who like joysticks will eventually want more buttons and a better throttle, but those cost money and money causes guilt if you’re not among the joystick enthusiasts.

I recently got into DCS and needed a stick to begin my journey. I didn't want to fully invest into a proper setup yet as I wanted to test the waters and see if I will even like the game. I was recommended the Extreme 3D Pro from various forums as it's both cheap and offer a decent amount of programmable buttons for the price point. The stick itself is well built for the most part. There is a bit of play with the twist rudder control but it doesn't hinder the real world use of the stick from my experience. I was surprised by how well balanced the stick was in relation to the base. I've had no issues with it sliding or lifting during my DCS sessions. A nice addition to the stick is the throttle slider control. It's small but it works well. The trigger is surprisingly satisfying to click. It's a bit shallow but it has a springy click to it. As for the usage during DCS, I found it very good for the Flaming Cliffs modules. With modifiers I was able to assign multiple key binds onto the same button which made game play much more fluid. Having to use the HAT button sucked for looking around the cockpit in my opinion. Having a head tracker is definitely preferable. One issue I came across was that the twist rudder was interrupting my flight by engaging the rudders when I didn't intend to. I fixed this by adding a significant dead zone to the rudder axis using the "Axis Tune" tab on the controls section. With this in mind I also did the same with my pitch and roll axis by adding a curve to reduce some of the sensitivity. Overall I highly recommend this stick for beginners. It will do the job until you decide to move onto something better.

If I'm remembering correctly, I've owned three Logitech Extreme3D Pro input devices over the many years they've been produced by Logitech, and recently purchased a fourth for a novice armchair pilot I'm introducing to the flight sim world. I have used the Extreme3D Pro primarily for flight simming, but I have also used it to reasonable effect for motorcycle and car simulators; I have found the Extreme3D Pro to shine brightest when used to control a flight simulator. While there are much, much more impressive input devices on the market today, the Extreme3D Pro is an excellent, no-nonsense device for the novice and experienced flight simmer. The Extreme3D Pro provides pitch, roll, yaw, and throttle in one device, and supports 12 programmable functions plus a programmable 8 position "hat" switch. The base is large relative to the height and throw of the stick, and is stable with all but the most agressive stick inputs (i.e., the base stays put as long as you don't bang the stick to the stops). The buttons on the stick are well-placed, making it easy for the novice to learn to use to good effect. The throttle is a small rotating paddle on the base behind the stick. I have found the throw of the throttle lever to be large enough to provide a good feel for adjusting throttle settings with default gains in the sims I've used with the Extreme3D Pro. Likewise, the rotation of the stick for yaw control in flight sims (that's how I've used it over the years) is natural, with good feel given default gains in the sims I've use with the Extreme3D Pro. Logitech placed 6 of the 12 buttons on the base. Those 6 buttons could have been laid out better to accommodate the natural left-hand placement on the base while using the throttle paddle. Speaking of hand placement, there might be a version of the Extreme3D Pro for South Paws, but I haven't seen one; the stick is definately meant for use by the right hand. The buttons often have functions defined by default settings in the most popular (flight) sims available today, so there is little or no need to customize the allocation of functions to buttons other than personal preference. Logitech has a rather crude, though effective, application that enables the user to program functions for the buttons, but the experienced and expert simmer will likely want to customize the allocations within their flight sim instead, saving system resources for the simulator to eek out every frame per second you can. I use the Logitech app to calibrate the joystick, but I use the simulator's function allocator to customize what the input device is controlling and how (e.g., function allocation, command repeat and rate, gain, dead-zone, non-linearity). I have not had an Extreme3D Pro fail the same way twice (yet). The construction is rugged, and the buttons have never failed on me. As the stick gets on in age, though, you might notice a persistent drifting in the calibration of the stick, or a "stuttering" in the throttle. When I've taken apart such miss-behaving sticks that are out of warrantee (it's always started to happen out of warrantee), I've found a lot of gunk in and around the sensors for the stick. Cleaning that up usually solved the problem. However, since the Extreme3D Pro is so inexpensive to purchase, and since they last so long with light to moderate use (i.e., not repeatedly slamming the stick or throttle from one stop to another during aggressive inputs...not that I have much experience with that ;-), by the time you get any kind of anomalies in the device you'll probably be in the mood for a replacement or an upgrade. All in all, I've been very satisfied with the Logitech Extreme3D Pro, particularly when used for flight simming. It makes a great first joystick or as a replacement for a low- to mid-range joystick.

Seems to be fairly well made and happy with it so far for playing ED. Excellent value as it was bought at a discounted price.

Funziona bene sia con Flight Simulator X che con X-Plane 11

Mein oller 20 jähriger Extreme 3D Pro Joystick hatte schon einige Macken und es war Zeit für eine Erneuerung. Mein neuer Extreme 3D Pro Joystick läuft wie am Schnürchen ohne Fisimatenten und Sperenzchen. Kaum zu glauben, dass so ein komplexes Teil zu diesem Preis zu bekommen ist, auch weil ich meinen Extreme 3D Pro Joystick in Einzelteile zerlegt habe, neu gelötet und wieder zusammen geschraubt habe.

Excelente produto. Muito confortável. Excelente vendedor. Rápido e produto muito bem embalado.

Un excelente joystick en su nivel de precio. Muy buen controlador de vuelo para principiantes. Buena estabilidad, buen agarre, firmeza adecuada en sus movimientos y se siente bastante resistente. Con 12 botones de buena retroalimentación, tres ejes y acelerador. USB, totalmente Plug and play en Windows 10, una gran diferencia contra un gamepad o el teclado. En FSX, la aplicación lo reconoce de inmediato. No es un HOTAS pero es un excelente control para empezar. En general un buen producto y definitivamente una excelente relación calidad precio. El único detalle es que está diseñado ergonómicamente para diestros. No lo recomendaría para una persona zurda. Lo compré de importación y llegó sin problema y 2 días antes de lo esperado. Muy satisfecho.